BNP set up youth movement.

[Joko]

So.
The British National Party has set up a youth movement they call the 'Young British National Party'. Now, it's hard not to make comparisons with the infamous Nazi Youth, set up by Hitler in an effort to gain support (which ultimately succeeded), but I want to hear Fleuds opinion. What do you think guys?

[Wynthar]

Eh. Hm. I don't know anything about the british national party. Nor the nazi youth party. Nor anything like that.

On one hand I think it's good to have organizations that allow youth to learn about politics and leadership.

On the other hand, if it's a brainwashing session intended to polarize children into one line of thinking I think that would be dangerous.

[X-r]

we have increasing neo nazi rates here in germany which is a mess.

i am not into the british society, especially not into the politics, but comparing "Young British National Party" with the "nazi youth" is very harsh.

the german nationalists just talking bullshit all the time, weak arguments with extreme populism.

[Joko]

i am not into the british society, especially not into the politics, but comparing "Young British National Party" with the "nazi youth" is very harsh.

Agreed... I've just finished studying the rise of the Nazi Party and the setting up of the youth movement was a big part. I was just saying its hard not to draw parallels.. And setting the stage for a healthy debate of course!

[X-r]

i looked at their website (a bit) and there are indeed similarities (which isnt really surprising..we have similar in germany but much less active[they also had troubles with the Constitutional Court, but thats another story)
but its very conspicuous how they care about there good image...
i guess their must be an eye on that, but still: i am neither into the society, nor i know really much about their influences :/

[Sky_king]

On one hand I think it's good to have organizations that allow youth to learn about politics and leadership.

Not this type of political movements. Continue reading and you will understand why.

Goals:

• All non-brits out of The United Kingdom
• All non-white out of The United Kingdom
• Introduce apartheid in The United Kingdom
• No mixed race relationships
• A gun in every household

All non British Persons out of The United Kingdoms:

This is idiocy at it's worst, first of all, kicking out everyone who weren't born there is impossible and they don't have the recourses for it. Secondly other countries would answer with kicking out the British people, for example the 800 000 British people living in Spain, most of them are even seniors.

All non white people out of The United Kingdom:

Even they should understand that they can't do that. People of minority have a great percent of some of the most important jobs in the society, 16% of nurses, 40% of new dentists and 58% of doctors. If the BNP kicked all these humans put the British society would fall apart.

Introduce apartheid in The United Kingdom:

Great, apartheid again... Introducing apartheid is some of the worst thing mankind have ever done, letting one race believe that they are superior... The BNP want to give white first right to housing, education and give them all the good jobs, while monority people must take the shitjobs white people won't take. This is going to be South-Africa all over again, for the record; The BNP supported the apartheid regime South-Africa.

No mixed Race relationships:

What the hell is this?! If I as a individual person wants to be together with a minority woman I should be damned allowed to! It's madness to let the state control your feeling or love life. They actually believes and have said that mixed race relationships ruins the white race...

A gun in every household:

This is actually their answer to violent crime... Every person should have a gun to defend them with, which is a pretty bad idea, just look at the US. In USA almost everyone can get a gun, and no wonder there are more people dying from bullet wounds than any other country in the world. Just imagine this scenraio: A teenager has a party, many people are really wasted and a guy just broke up with his girl. The girl is emotionally crushed and finds a gun, she is wasted beyond limits and sad as hell and se shoots herself or her ex-boyfriend. Sounds safe? I think not! Also there is a chance that there may be more school massacres because getting guns is easier.

I understand that you can draw parallels with BNP and the young nazis. I can also draw parallels between these and the Norwegian "Vigrid" party which stands for mostly the same things, they are noe nazis.

In my most honest opinion I think BNP sounds like someone trying to gain power and get to the Parliment and then change the laws so only they can be elected at the election days, they will most likely not get this power without using force so don't be suprised if they start using violence. And if you know any of them, please, just please either talk them out of it or don't be friends with them.

And people of Fleud, do not fall for their propaganda!

I just hate racists, especially stupid ones like these...

And don't read their website, it's full of propaganda...

~Sky_King

[Joko]

Sky, this is exactly the kinda thing I wanna see on the general chat forum, views expressed in a civilised and calm manner. +1 rep and post rank.

[Sky_king]

Thanks Joko. I really think we could need a debate forum in the future.

And ps. You didn't rep or so it says

[Joko]

Yeah i tried but I need to 'Spread some rep around' before I can rep you.

So, here's an official IOU.
'I, Joko, owe Sky_king one positive reputation point'.

Feel free to quote it in your sig or something.

[Sky_king]

haha, I hate and love that "you must spread some rep around" message. I love it because it means someome repped me a few times in a row. I hate it because I get less rep xD

Thanks for the IOU :3

EDIT:

looked at their website (a bit)

Don't look at their website, most of it is hardcore propaganda...

[X-r]

good post above sky king.

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Don't look at their website, most of it is hardcore propaganda...

i know?^^

but web-site appearance always tell a lot . . .
I am familiar with that from german nationalists parties(very right), so from the extreme opposites (very left). . . telling such an obvious dumb its almost funny, too bad some ppl fall on that.